krayzie Bone wrote:When Danielson jobbed to Sheamus in 18 seconds, it was basically Vince's big fuck you to Indy wrestling. Vince was conveying a message that no matter how good you are of a wrestler and no matter how popular you are in the Indies, your ability and talent means nothing once you are in the WWE. Once in WWE, Vince owns you. One of the most talented wrestlers in the history of the Indies jobbed to another WWE neanderthal.
So Cal Punk wrote:krayzie Bone wrote:When Danielson jobbed to Sheamus in 18 seconds, it was basically Vince's big fuck you to Indy wrestling. Vince was conveying a message that no matter how good you are of a wrestler and no matter how popular you are in the Indies, your ability and talent means nothing once you are in the WWE. Once in WWE, Vince owns you. One of the most talented wrestlers in the history of the Indies jobbed to another WWE neanderthal.
I don't think it's that far. A squash match kinda made sense, based on how the storyline was going. I still don't like that it happened. I think him & Sheamus could have a great match.
So Cal Punk wrote:krayzie Bone wrote:When Danielson jobbed to Sheamus in 18 seconds, it was basically Vince's big fuck you to Indy wrestling. Vince was conveying a message that no matter how good you are of a wrestler and no matter how popular you are in the Indies, your ability and talent means nothing once you are in the WWE. Once in WWE, Vince owns you. One of the most talented wrestlers in the history of the Indies jobbed to another WWE neanderthal.
I don't think it's that far. A squash match kinda made sense, based on how the storyline was going. I still don't like that it happened. I think him & Sheamus could have a great match.
krayzie Bone wrote:So Cal Punk wrote:krayzie Bone wrote:When Danielson jobbed to Sheamus in 18 seconds, it was basically Vince's big fuck you to Indy wrestling. Vince was conveying a message that no matter how good you are of a wrestler and no matter how popular you are in the Indies, your ability and talent means nothing once you are in the WWE. Once in WWE, Vince owns you. One of the most talented wrestlers in the history of the Indies jobbed to another WWE neanderthal.
I don't think it's that far. A squash match kinda made sense, based on how the storyline was going. I still don't like that it happened. I think him & Sheamus could have a great match.
Well I have never seen a great match in the WWE but let's not argue about this cause it will lead to nowhere. Their lame story lines is precisely why I stopped watching it a while back. And yes Vince did threw it in every ROH and other Indy fan's faces that ever thought Danielson was the best.
krayzie Bone wrote:So Cal Punk wrote:krayzie Bone wrote:When Danielson jobbed to Sheamus in 18 seconds, it was basically Vince's big fuck you to Indy wrestling. Vince was conveying a message that no matter how good you are of a wrestler and no matter how popular you are in the Indies, your ability and talent means nothing once you are in the WWE. Once in WWE, Vince owns you. One of the most talented wrestlers in the history of the Indies jobbed to another WWE neanderthal.
I don't think it's that far. A squash match kinda made sense, based on how the storyline was going. I still don't like that it happened. I think him & Sheamus could have a great match.
Well I have never seen a great match in the WWE but let's not argue about this cause it will lead to nowhere. Their lame story lines is precisely why I stopped watching it a while back. And yes Vince did threw it in every ROH and other Indy fan's faces that ever thought Danielson was the best.
berserko wrote:I agree that this will be remembered by history as a quick loss, but people usually bag the booking, not the wrestler. Warrior squashed Triple H in similar fashion - how is HHH doing these days?
berserko wrote:I agree that this will be remembered by history as a quick loss, but people usually bag the booking, not the wrestler. Warrior squashed Triple H in similar fashion - how is HHH doing these days?
berserko wrote:I agree that this will be remembered by history as a quick loss, but people usually bag the booking, not the wrestler. Warrior squashed Triple H in similar fashion - how is HHH doing these days?
Garden State Saint wrote:It's closed because a few people don't agree. C'mon now.
krayzie Bone wrote:berserko wrote:I agree that this will be remembered by history as a quick loss, but people usually bag the booking, not the wrestler. Warrior squashed Triple H in similar fashion - how is HHH doing these days?
Ultimate Warrior is as big of a name as Hogan. You don't see the difference between jobbing to Warrior and jobbing to Sheamus? LOL
krayzie Bone wrote:Garden State Saint wrote:It's closed because a few people don't agree. C'mon now.
There is really nothing more to discuss or argue about. I know why Vince jobbed Danielson. This is nothing new though, WWE is known for jobbing great wrestlers to Neanderthals. I cannot prove to you or anyone else here that it was pure politics on behalf of Vince and WWE, since I cannot prove it beyond the shadow of a doubt, it remains simply my opinion, I stated my opinion and others here disagreed, what else is there to be said Garden Saint?
berserko wrote:krayzie Bone wrote:berserko wrote:I agree that this will be remembered by history as a quick loss, but people usually bag the booking, not the wrestler. Warrior squashed Triple H in similar fashion - how is HHH doing these days?
Ultimate Warrior is as big of a name as Hogan. You don't see the difference between jobbing to Warrior and jobbing to Sheamus? LOL
That is remarkable that this is what you took from my statement. Warrior squashing HHH had little to do with Warrior's popularity, but was a punishment for HHH breaking kayfabe, as popular opinion suggests. I am not comparing Sheamus to Warrior, I am comparing the squash. It is not unheard of for a Wrestlemania squash to occur, and in Danielson's case, it seems to have more with a cheap pop to bury the chickenshit heel more than it does killing the Indies. If Vince wants to kill the Indies, he can just try to pull the best talent, but there will always be that next guy, so that does not seem to be Vince's concern.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, and I do not presume to know all about backstage politics, but my point, along with some others on the board, is that this does not hurt Daniel Bryan much, if at all, and probably will lead to a push and storyline angles. Regardless, I have been surprised, and quite pleased, with WWE pushing some of our Indy Superstars, and I will take that all day.
As a total aside - thanks for the kind words Garden State Saint - they are much appreciated, and perhaps I will have to post more, as I absolutely love the PWG fan community :)
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