Big Joe wrote:80% of the roster would qualify. No thanks.
Jake wrote:Not really, for the heavyweight division they would still have super dragon, joey ryan, kevin steen, samoa joe, chris bosh, davey richards, aj styles, chris hero, bryan danielson, kazrian, petey williams, chris sabin, rocky romero, disco machine, excalibur etc.
evilpaz wrote:heavyweight usually means that they're heavy...
I think you have to be at least 230 to be considered "heavy". Outside of Joe and Hero, the heaviest guy you mentioned was 215.
onlxn wrote:It's really not a dumb idea. It's the exact right idea for the company.
Forget about people's actual size for a minute. PWG has a real problem with a million meaningless matches underneath the big ones. I mean, for example, what is T.J. Perkins' goal in PWG? In the last six months alone, he's tagged with Shelley, Sabin, Hook, Rocky, Frankie, Tornado, Topgun, Fergall Devitt and Bino Gambino. He's faced a couple of those guys, as well. He's just drifting aimlessly through the midcard, and if I'm a T.J. fan, that disappoints the hell outta me.
There's an obvious solution to the pointless, random nature of the midcard: give them something to fight for. You make a light heavyweight belt and suddenly you know what T.J. wants. You know what Koslov wants. You know what Topgun and Excalibur want, and what Generico and Quick and Scorp and Tornado and Scott want. Most of these guys will never be in the heavyweight title picture, so unless they're challenging for the tag belts or are in an ongoing feud, they have nothing to wrestle for. A light-heavyweight belt would solve that.
It wouldn't even have to be a huge, hyped, fly-in-heavy tournament like for the other titles or BOLA; an eight-man tourney on a show with two title matches and one other feature match would work just fine. Just off the top of my head:
Topgun vs. Generico
Quicksilver vs. Alex Koslov
Human Tornado vs. T.J. Perkins
Scorpio Sky vs. Excalibur
Semis of Generico/Quick and Scorpio/T.J., maybe leading to a Scorpio/Quick match. Scorp becomes the heel champ and defends against these guys, fly-ins like Evans and maybe Davey down the line. It makes for one more meaningful match per show and gives about a third of the roster a reason for existing. How the hell would this be a bad thing for PWG?
CheMateo wrote:I don't like the idea of guys being stuck in certain weight classes and never really getting a chance to fight everybody.
CheMateo wrote:I don't like the idea of guys being stuck in certain weight classes and never really getting a chance to fight everybody. Without another division everybody can have a chance to be the best. Everybody can have a chance to be champion. Not be stuck in a certain class because of their weight or size.
Jake wrote:A secondary title (With no restrictions that anybody can win) would be mighty fine, I'd be all for that personally.
But isn't that what the PWG championship is now? It doesn't seem to have any weight restrictions or anything like that.
onlxn wrote:It's really not a dumb idea. It's the exact right idea for the company.
Forget about people's actual size for a minute. PWG has a real problem with a million meaningless matches underneath the big ones. I mean, for example, what is T.J. Perkins' goal in PWG? In the last six months alone, he's tagged with Shelley, Sabin, Hook, Rocky, Frankie, Tornado, Topgun, Fergall Devitt and Bino Gambino. He's faced a couple of those guys, as well. He's just drifting aimlessly through the midcard, and if I'm a T.J. fan, that disappoints the hell outta me.
There's an obvious solution to the pointless, random nature of the midcard: give them something to fight for. You make a light heavyweight belt and suddenly you know what T.J. wants. You know what Koslov wants. You know what Topgun and Excalibur want, and what Generico and Quick and Scorp and Tornado and Scott want. Most of these guys will never be in the heavyweight title picture, so unless they're challenging for the tag belts or are in an ongoing feud, they have nothing to wrestle for. A light-heavyweight belt would solve that.
It wouldn't even have to be a huge, hyped, fly-in-heavy tournament like for the other titles or BOLA; an eight-man tourney on a show with two title matches and one other feature match would work just fine. Just off the top of my head:
Topgun vs. Generico
Quicksilver vs. Alex Koslov
Human Tornado vs. T.J. Perkins
Scorpio Sky vs. Excalibur
Semis of Generico/Quick and Scorpio/T.J., maybe leading to a Scorpio/Quick match. Scorp becomes the heel champ and defends against these guys, fly-ins like Evans and maybe Davey down the line. It makes for one more meaningful match per show and gives about a third of the roster a reason for existing. How the hell would this be a bad thing for PWG?
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